the second house was purchased for another Witness couple
Well, that makes sense. Every alcoholic needs a drinking buddy. Eliminates the problem of driving drunk. What a reproach that would be. Another wise provision from the Governing Nannys.
on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
the second house was purchased for another Witness couple
Well, that makes sense. Every alcoholic needs a drinking buddy. Eliminates the problem of driving drunk. What a reproach that would be. Another wise provision from the Governing Nannys.
i read an interesting interview with billionaire warren buffet's sidekick, billionaire charlie munger.
good read, this grandpa agrees 1000% with his advice.
i wish i had learned earlier to realize almost everyone lies...(sometimes to themselves) but especially, all politicians and religious leaders.. what advice would you as a grandparent add?".
Get saved as early as you can and stand on the promises of God.
Everthing I did prior to doing these two things in life was very nearly a complete waste of time.
so for those amongst us who celebrate the season .
merry christmas everyone.
.. jan from tam .
Some day soon we can enjoy a happy great tribulation.
@ Bribie - Didn't you hear the good news? The rapture isn't just for the governing body anymore. All believers get to skip the tribulation:
The Rapture is for every individual who is in Christ (“them also which sleep in Jesus ... we which are alive and remain,” 1 Th. 4:14, 15). Compare 1 Co. 15:23, “But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.” There is no “partial” or “split” Rapture taught in Scripture.
The Rapture is an event in which the dead in Christ will be raised and the living saints will be changed and glorified (1 Th. 4:14-17).
just back from renovating my holiday home in the south west of france.
beats yorkshire anyday.... anyway thought i would share this little account with you.. as most are of you are aware, the alarm code for about 90% of kingdom halls is 1914 (nineteen fourteen).. i t seems though that for the last 8 or 9 quick builds or refurbs in the uk, the brother who installed the numbers into the alarm control panel used the numbers 1975 and explained the number as one nine seven five not the the easier version (ninteen seventy five).. trivial joke or honest mistake, either way this poor brother has been rumbled and has to to meet with 2 elders investigating on behalf of a body of elders to see whether an apostasy charge will be brought.. he is supposed to be meeting with them over the next few days.. .
a very sad jem, who is sick of the whole elder abuse game.
Yes, two elders and one of their wives worked for me in an everyday office environment which I owned. 3 to 4 non JW's worked there too. If you only knew the history of how I grew up it would be 100 times funnier. I smoked dope most every day as a kid in the 1975 aftermath, until age 23. I just couldn't believe in any of the KH / WT leadership or my parents after the 1975 failed prophecy.
I was a complete embarrassment to my family who had been JW's for generations already. I was labelled a wild idiot.
When I moved to another city and became successful, and a baptized JW in good standing, they still didn't know what to think of me. JW's are uncomfortable with people who don't fit into nice little molds.
We all got along great at the office. Although, I do have to admit that the irony of being labelled an idiot for not listening to the elders when I was young, and then being their boss at only age 27 was somewhat gratifying. But, it was all for nothing, my parents never did except me.
just back from renovating my holiday home in the south west of france.
beats yorkshire anyday.... anyway thought i would share this little account with you.. as most are of you are aware, the alarm code for about 90% of kingdom halls is 1914 (nineteen fourteen).. i t seems though that for the last 8 or 9 quick builds or refurbs in the uk, the brother who installed the numbers into the alarm control panel used the numbers 1975 and explained the number as one nine seven five not the the easier version (ninteen seventy five).. trivial joke or honest mistake, either way this poor brother has been rumbled and has to to meet with 2 elders investigating on behalf of a body of elders to see whether an apostasy charge will be brought.. he is supposed to be meeting with them over the next few days.. .
a very sad jem, who is sick of the whole elder abuse game.
do you think that 1914 is still a popular code at Kingdom Halls?
Yes, and the false alarm code to give to the security is likely 1975.
I actually had these codes in my office where two JW eldders worked for me. They thought is was funny.
on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
I'm sure that he's just hanging out with his friends:
so for those amongst us who celebrate the season .
merry christmas everyone.
.. jan from tam .
Merry Christmas!
lett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.
https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.
this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..
Next Summer's convention, I expect a Flash of Light Public Address Talk on this timely information:
MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER SHAVE
What a loving provision from the Governing Nannys.
"the new study indicates that the oceans that covered the entire planet in water were at least 300 metres deep.
they may have been up to one kilometre deep.".
yet, some secularists say they are sure that the earth was never completely flooded with water above the tops of mountains as described in genesis.
Stan, It was a process. I'm sort of a contrarians' contrarian. It was about the only tool I had after leaving the WT, since trust in God, my parents, elders, GB, were all destroyed, once I reached my vomit limit with WT lies. So, I believed in myself and rode that horse as far as it would take me. It was an improvement, but not nearly enough, for me.
A university education left me disillusioned. It was really my last hope, I thought. I couldn't figure out why my atheist philosophy professor couldn't seem to teach anything that didn't have something to do with destroying a "Christian" argument. I had already concluded (based on my JW experience) that Christian leaders were at the very least senile, infantile, ignorant and quite possible criminally liable. Why would he stoop so low as to even dignify a Christian argument?
I didn't want to hear anything that had the word Christian attached to it, even if it was a polemic. But, slowly, and ironically, I began to get used to Christian arguments from him. I had never heard anything like it from the WT. My sociology professors were mostly Marxists, which as a businessman I knew to be incredibly unfair and little more than a race to the bottom of poverty. I sensed that the philosphy and sociology professors were on some sort of Jihad against Christianity. I detected that I was being manipulated and indoctrinated.
In time, I reluctanly tried a Methodist church for a few months. Ended up on a homosexual date unbewnowst to me. Then tried a non-denominational church. Ended up getting jilted by a church volunteer leader girl who was in a sexually active relationship with another volunteer man who wasn't interested in marriage. I didn't see much biblical Christianity in either church.
So, I decided to just be a good person and live my life. Someone eventually showed me many scriptures that a person simply will never hear at the Kingdom Hall.
It became apparent to me that people from different backgrounds were all using similar selective information techniques to steer attention away from the simple basic message of the NT. I found this to be very curious. Being a contrarian's contrairian, this naturally pointed me in the right direction.
It is a skill that I naturally have and it has allowed me to start from scratch 2 multi-million $ businesses and one that produced around 700K per yer from my home in my 40 + years as an entrepreneur.
Then, one day I suddenly recalled two experiences that I had 17 years previously while pioneering that I will never forget. I will relate one of them:
I knocked on an apartment door and an unusually beautiful woman came to the door and invited me in. She appeared to be interested in what I had to say. Started a study on the spot. Her husband attended the study off and on. He appeared to be about 5 years younger than her with a mullet haircut. He was a landscaper. The situation was a little unusual. This woman was straight off the pages of Glamour Magazine, unbelievable gorgeous, even after two kids and little to no make up. Usually women like that are millionair trophy wives.
She had a naturally whispy , kind voice and gently challenged me here and there. After about 4 or 5 studies, when we were alone she asked me if I wanted to know what Jesus had done for her? I said sure.
She appeaered to be the perfect wife and mother, so I was interested in what she had to say. Looking at her blond hair, and perfect facial features as she spoke, I began to get pulled into her life story, which she related in some detail. She began to tell me how she was abused as a child and how she had no one that she could trust, how she would hide from her abuser. She related how she grew up and turned to drugs to help her cope with an impossible situation, even needle type drugs. She was "strung-out" was her phrase. She said that for years, she was a very high-dollar prostitute (3k per night in today's money).
She got to the end of herself and Jesus came into her life and saved her. She said that he got her off the drugs, got her out of the prostitution ring, gave her, her dignity back then provided her with a loving husband and two beautiful children. She spoke of Jesus like he was real, like he was sitting right there with us, like he was her best friend, like she really loved him.
I was very shook up by her testimony and was speechless. I am a natural born salesman by nature. Because of that I knew that I had NOTHING in my bookbag that could compare with what she had. She had a superior product than what I was peddling. I had encountered a power far beyond anything I had ever experienced before. I got the hell out of there shortly after that and never went back. I just couldn't process the power that I had encountered at the time. But, I never forgot it.
It wasn't until decades later, suddenly one day, that the Lord revealed to me that she was the one who was studying with me. She was being compassionately obedient to his leading. She went way out of her way, (probably had to deal with her husband too so that he would agree to the unusual situation) just to be able to get me to listen to her testimony with an open mind.
I have my own rescue story to tell. But, in short, it is the raw power of God to change lives and to heal that caused me to become a Christian. Once you encounter it, Jesus becomes more real than your own mother.
"the new study indicates that the oceans that covered the entire planet in water were at least 300 metres deep.
they may have been up to one kilometre deep.".
yet, some secularists say they are sure that the earth was never completely flooded with water above the tops of mountains as described in genesis.
Vidiot,
I wasn't a biblical anything for 8 years after leaving the WT. Started off a pretty solid agnostic.
TonusOH,
That's great news! Have you heard of the Dawkins Delusion published by Banter & Twaddle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQgmRiHt9BI&ab_channel=ReuvenGoldstein